When robots and AI take too many jobs, something like Communism will become literally inevitable. When there are only 200 million POSSIBLE job positions, but 300 million people in your country, you're going to have none stop, daily riots, and not just in Portland. Except this time they'll be hungry, desperate and with nothing to lose.
>>1337973(OP) >Except this time they'll be hungry, desperate and with nothing to lose.
Massive automation and advances in agriculture will make sure that every person in the west will have his calorie intake covered. Even today if you look at the "revolutionaries" who call themselves antifa are mostly obese.
Obesity is much more likely to become an issue than malnutrition however Communism could help solve the obesity problem afterwards
It won't be communism it will ubi. Which is capitalistic state welfare via taxation. Communism had its chance in the 1900s and they fucked it up so bad even the Russians who basically invented it wanted out. Its over.
When people will shut down robot, they will rejoice.
Then, they will ask themselves "how do we produce this thing again? I don't remember."
People will first try not to carve for consumerism, and will then try to find a way to produce again.
Work will be hard, quantity produced will be low, and people will ask why it cost so dam much.
"You gotta pay the comrad that build this !"
Finaly, people will be really poor, and will say things along "Fuck! See where we are now? That's because of robots! Hopefully we shut them down before they kill us all!"
Tl,dr : idiots will always be idiots.
Rich before the de-robotization will still be rich after. Poor will be even poorer.
Why would a robot or true AI come to the conclusion that precious energy should be wasted on dumb, unproductive biomass? If anything it will conclude that entitled, unproductive and greedy people are a threat and eliminate anything left of self awareness.
AI and robots taking more of their respective jobs prevents communism.
The economy advances and adapts. Machinery has already advanced in a way that transformed 80% of the market from agriculture to just 3%, from 75% industry to 11%.
There's always a market, whether it is given or you make your own.
If there's 300 million people, and 200 million jobs, that's 50 million open jobs after you remove children, the retired, and the unable.
If one farm job is taken, two service jobs are made to serve whatever they pluck. If shipping is taken by AI, then personality based jobs will spring up. People have particular tastes and will shift their economy to what people can offer them differently. There will be a market for a smiling cashier instead of yet another screen, there will be a market for someone to spend the day with you while they explore a hobby with you. There's always a market. Even in Star Trek with replicators, people owned bars and vineyards and people happily paid for their services and goods.
>>1337973(OP) >something like Communism will become literally inevitable
No, ethnic cleansing and death squads will happen. Joggers, spics, kikes and kike lovers will hung from every tree. The holocaust we paid for but never got will finally happen. And it will be glorious.
Not in your lifetime, someone needs to maintain the and supervise the robots & AI. It's likely that more people will move to higher skilled jobs or service jobs that need to be done by humans. If anything this would give incentive to kill off lower classes who can not do these jobs.
And those people will divide along ethnic lines like the all conflicts in multi-ethnic societies that collapse. Class only becomes relevant when it's an intra-ethnic conflict in a relatively homogenous society. Also post-scarcity could just as easily make people complacent and living off of something like UBI rather than rebel against the Capitalist class.
We live in a Post-Marxist world anon. Only Neoliberalism (Including Radlibs), Futurism, and Third Positionism will be relevant.
this is not a warning. its the gameplan for the future except it won't be a communist revolution. No the real communist will be killed but the rest of the population will be consumer slaves unless you're part of the elite.
Marx was wrong the first time, and your thesis will be wrong too, because communism has, in its axioms, a fundamental misunderstanding about how people operate, especially on a national scale.
>>1337973(OP) >the rich owns the AI robots >don't need slaves to create their products anymore >lmao, let's just let those worthless parasites implement communism
not gonna happen, you're gonna die before you try any shit revolution.
No it is not and yes you are an idiot.
Robots will do base jobs and rise from there. As they start from the bottom people will demand things of higher quality eventually leading to basics (basic food and shelter) being provided but if you want better you will have to work for it.
Not communism it is a failed idea due to weak corrupt leaders, people will always want freedom and they will eventually get it by force if necessary.
Don't believe me take a look at the homeless, most of them have tents now since they became so cheep to buy most no longer have to sleep rough on the streets.
Progress makes things cheaper until they become worthless and then people will strive for higher qualities of life.
Why is this not working for food right now?
It's fucking mainly government subsidized in most countries and production is controlled no market to strive to make it faster or more of it.
>>1337973(OP) >When robots and AI take too many jobs, something like Communism will become literally inevitable. When there are only 200 million POSSIBLE job positions, but 300 million people in your country, you're going to have none stop, daily riots, and not just in Portland. Except this time they'll be hungry, desperate and with nothing to lose
Hilarious part is you're right ... one of the simplest of ideas marx came up with was alienation of the worker, and surplus labor.
Capitalism btfo by it's own "efficiency" model.
The hairy alcoholic was right the whole fucking time!
Didn't they say that about automation in the 30s? And in the 50s? And in the 60s? 80s? 90s? and in the 00s? and in the 10s? Heck I think even HG wells in the 1800s thought that automation would create a communist society.
There is never not a time that people have stupidly thought that automating work would magically equalize income and it never could ever happen because tools no matter how advanced are not magical benevolent overlord superbeings.
i think whats more likely to happen is that "the elite" will sell people like you on a kind of utopian mousetrap that is designed to pit you against your brother, designed to promote a conflict that will cull the herd, and thats the actual way that they will take care of the outmoded labor machines that you call your friends and family. rest assured that if it doesn't happen that way, it will happen another way, tending toward the same practical result. the point being, there isn't another human soul who is going to work hard to guarantee your continued existence.
In a nation with 300m people, only 2/3 of those at most are within age range of being able to work.
Shut the hell up, you retarded faggot. You’ve never lived under communism and your ignorant ass is lucky for that.
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