Why is cars still needing mechanical work and breaking down a thing?
Its 2021. We've pretty much reached the peak of engineering. Every other industry has almost mastered their product. Even when other products do seem to have problems it's not expensive and its minor. But the car industry struggles to just make a product that is reliable and won't shit the bed, despite consumers spending tens of thousands on them.
Is the automotive industry holding on to the perfect vehicular engineering just so people have to keep buying cars and they don't lose sales? This makes the most sense to me.
How hard is it to make a car with parts that dont fucking break. Like what the fuck is the deal man. My hond aaccord has run fine for 12 years but the interior is fucked and i have random lights and shit go on. My shovel has worked for 75 years in my family and nevwr broken. Why the FUCK cant my car do the same when im paying 30000x more for it. Fucking kikes
more complex, sophisticated systems, more things to go wrong, but also one thing has not changed: cars have to take a beating on roads, all sorts of weather conditions, driving conditions, accidents, etc.,
>>1455796(OP) >posts ford ecoboost 4 cylinder
not even a ford fan but there are a lot of turbo engines alongside this one that do just fine and reach 100k without anything but oil changes and spark plugs
EV is the future. Get rid of your ICE POS while it’s still worth something. Soon that jacked up 4x4 micropenis compensator you paid $50,000 for will be worth $6,200 on a trade. Driving an EV is a sign of prosperity and high IQ. I have had two already soooooooooooo...
also have a $7,500 tax refund coming PLUS my Biden bucks. Sweet.
Because there is money to be made from broken cars. Same reason light bulbs are designed to fail after a year, lightbulbs can last 100 years if they wanted them to. Same reason hospitals and pharma needs sick people, so they fuck you up with vaccines to create a health care demand.
Diesel engines can last a million miles, run on less processed fuel, get better mileage, easier to repair and those engines are getting banned. You can't get cars with diesel anymore because the faggots want you broke.
They are made by the sheepest, excuse me, cheapest means possible to increase profit margins. Also they need to keep the automotive parts and repair tech industries alive until they have robots. Then we are all FUCKED!
We could make a car that doesn't break down nor need service for a million miles; it would just cost $500k. Most people are okay with a car that costs $15k but needs the occasional service every few months over the alternate.
You have metal parts rubbing against metal parts, you're physically going to have wear no matter what. Furthermore, cars aren't allowed to have a smooth evolutionary engineering process due to ever changing emission requirements, which is one of the big reasons if you open up the hood of a 2020 car it has about ten times the wires and random sensors of something made pre-1980, with more complexity you're going to have more points of failure (even then modern engines tend to have longer lifespans than historic older ones did).
>>1455796(OP) >Why is cars still needing mechanical work and breaking down a thing? >Its 2021. We've pretty much reached the peak of engineering. Every other industry has almost mastered their product. Even when other products do seem to have problems it's not expensive and its minor. But the car industry struggles to just make a product that is reliable and won't shit the bed, despite consumers spending tens of thousands on them. >Is the automotive industry holding on to the perfect vehicular engineering just so people have to keep buying cars and they don't lose sales? This makes the most sense to me.
Why are modern 'men' like this? like I can tell this isn't a larp by the way it was typed.
t. motorbike mechanic, was going to type out more but didn't want to insult the intelligence of other people in the thread by stating common sense.
In the late seventies and early eighties was peak longevity for vehicles then the decline of sales, so they manufactured a fuel scare to make people buy "economical" cars that were throw away cars. Then it snowballed into "engineered to fail" to keep you in debt forever either by the fix it shop or trade ins.
Moving parts = friction. Constant friction = wear. Wear = things break. I get what you mean but looking at current manufacturing and costs. I don't see better options. All the options increase cost and people don't want that for vehicles or part prices.
I bought a used low-millage Toyota 1999 Corolla in 2004. Have been driving it ever since. It's super reliable. The only thing I'm worried about is rust from Midwest winters. I will always buy Toyota, though am not certain how reliable recent production has been compared to 1990s era.
products are designed to expire in a set number of years so that company may sell their product again, that is the greatest reason why all expensive products have a shelf life of 5-10 years until they slow down, break down, or become obsolete
>>1455796(OP) >just so people have to keep buying cars and they don't lose sales?
t. worked over a decade in the Car industry.
they also design modern cars in a way that its hard to impossible to fix them yourself. they want you to go to their auto repair shop for repairs.
They also lied about Co2 bullshit to release newer cars for green idiots. >this car produces 10% less emissions. I need to replace my 3 year old car to protect the environment!
It's a combination of high temperatures and metal parts rubbing against each other along with a very long lifetime and generally poor and sporadic maintenance. If you get your car serviced on a regular schedule it will last basically forever. Everything needs servicing to last. Cars, tractors, turbines, nuclear reactors, ships, etc. Most cars manufactured these days make it past 100k miles with only oil and battery replacements. Longevity is way better than it used to be.
The ultimate, unbreakable engine was made in the 80s by Mercedes. Theyd run for a million miles and still run like a charm. Then they realized each car made was a net loss to the company, and so they addressed the issue.
Same thing, unironically with college education.
More people than ever attend school, getting educated and yet the more shitty the actually education is. Trying to appeal to critical mass is a mistake, if you're aim is quality. So why do they do it? They make a shit ton of money.
Becausr first law of physics or second or some shit. Idk im a retard, but i do know whenever you start an engine, its breaking down. Everything and anything like an engine ia continuously wearing out when you are expecting it to do what it does. Oil. The lubrication prevents it from breaking down as bad. Coolant. The heat is dispensed throughout your radiator. You have to change the way you see a car. Yes some of it is cheap chink shit, and thats doesnt help. But in reality, everything rusts, everything breaks down. Its pretty much a unstoppable. Thats why you have to take pride in learning to fix this shit yourself. Both o mine over 200k miles
>>1455796(OP) >The jew fears the modded ej205 mechanic
Shit breaks, but with enough time and familiarity you can diagnose problems by feel and sound. Download a factory service manual for your car, or buy an aftermarket service manual from Vatozone.
As long as you buy something not built in the last 10-15 years >Nothing is too difficult >nothing requires tools that can’t be cheaply purchased or rented FOR FREE with a refundable deposit >parts aren’t that expensive if you’re smart. Is the dealer trying to rob you for a MAF sensor? Go buy it straight from a DENSO vendor for a quarter of the price. Don’t be afraid of aftermarket stuff if it’s not going to cost you a new engine if it fails >every repair has been documented online in detail if you look >many cars have enthusiast forums that are happy to help with unique problems and are a repository of solutions to common ones >t. Subaru owner/hobbyist mechanic for 10 years
two primary reasons >crash safety regulations have increased the electronics and weight requirements to bring any new car to market >emissions and fuel economy regulations (plus displacement taxes in many locales) have increased the stress on mechanical components through the strongarm encouragement of forced induction engines and the increasingly complex exhaust treatment/recirculation systems
there are some manufacturers fighting against some regulations, others fighting against others, but none in the west have managed to give all the regulations the finger ever since Dieselgate killed the magical 1.9TDI
that being said, modern vehicles are objectively far more reliable than cars of even 20 years ago, with some exceptions like the land cruiser
Take a steel rod, heat it to red hot, then have it handle 9 atmospheres of pressure 50 times per second 96,000 times per day, every single day for 10 years.
That is the repetitive stress every single piston in your car operates at every single time you drive it.
It's a fucking miracle they last for 10 miles let alone 200,000.
It's intentional. Greed makes things break and makes repeat customers. Many people have several auto loans, even loans on cars they don't have anymore. An EH2 civic from the '90s was like $9k and still is safe, fast, fun, reliable, and gets 50mpg. Some people say modern cars suck because technology, like the tesla touchscreens that only last a few years, but buick was making super cheap cars with lots of modes, HVAC, etc. operated by touchscreen in the '80s, and they still work perfectly to this day, with less lag than teslas.
You want automotive perfection OP? Get pic related. Will literally run long after your gene pool is extinct. If it does break, you can fix it for pennies compared to anything else. This is peak engineering, change my mind.
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